I had a profile posted on an American dating web site and a female from my area answered me.
Her letter was a few lines long, in good English and she seemed honest and cute, so I replied.
The letter said she had a read-only trial account and would not be able to receive messages,
so she included a yahoo email address. She asked me to write to this yahoo email address.
I did this and a few days later her trial account was gone, she explained that she deleted
it because she found me. (that is what she answered, when I asked her about it)
This girl claimed to live in Kazan, Tartastan, 26 years old and called herself Barbi.
There was something suspicious about her letters, in particular I always had the
impression that she did not really read mine every time. Sometimes she wrote
personal, matching replies, then sometimes not. her photos of which she sent
about 25 so far, had number like 5.jpg, 6.jpg, 35.jpg etc.
Yesterday I did a query for some phrases of some of her emails and found them
posted on 2 other web sites. Apparently she wrote identical letters to other guys
using different names and different pictures. She or he asked those guys for money,
supposedly for tickets or visa paperwork. I guess I am lucky that she never asked
me for any money. However, I felt fooled when I saw "my" emails had also been
sent in parts to other guys.
For that reason I will post her here letters. I know that parts of these letters
have been posted on 2 other sites, but not all.
I include the full headers in the first email. The sender comes from a russian
dial-up but in another email I sent her a URL to one of my web sites and apparantly
"she" uses some sort of satellite DSL for the downstream, the IP number was
84.xx (to be filled in later).
Authentication-Results: mta251.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=yahoo.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 188.8.131.52 (EHLO aqua.relinfo.ru) (184.108.40.206)
by mta251.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:02:29 -0700
Received: from [220.127.116.11] (92.214.dialup.mari-el.ru [18.104.22.168])
by aqua.relinfo.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j885LxCa024528
for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:28:33 +0400 (MSD)
Hello Peter! Have good day? The computer in service of acquaintances
found to me Some profiles of people which coincide with my inquiry. I
Preliminary studied them and has decided to send you to the first the
message Because your profile seems to me more interesting. I hope,
that You have time to send me some messages that we could it is better
to learn about each other. I shall tell a little about myself; my age
of 26 years old and my birthday on On July, 22. I was not married and
I live in an apartment with my parents. Some years, after the ending
of training I work seller of home appliances in a supermarket. To me
To like productive leisure, periodically go in for sports for
maintenance of a body. I like to travel and be in different places,
but My work does not allow me to do it frequently. I have many
friends, We sometimes together spend time, play billiards and tennis,
we have Other entertainment. I send you the picture that you knew my
person. Me very much like different sweet things, such as a pie, cake,
sweet. But frequently I do not permit itself to have it to not be
thick. Still I love beautiful clothes and different things of light
colours. I like of light tone, such as light-blue, pink, beige. And
what your favourite colour? Please Ask things interesting you about me
and inform me some The information on you: what you love an
entertainment? What your character? What You love qualities in women?
Whether You had the wife? I shall answer on your questions and to
inform you it is more about itself in following e-mail! I shall be To
wait for your messages. My email is email@example.com I with
impatience shall wait letter from you and I shall answer you at once
as soon as you to me write. it will be pleasant for me to see your new
photos and to learn a lot of new about you. Write to me I wait. Your
Dear mine , where you were gone, why any more do not write me
the letters, I wait already what is the time, and them all no.
There can be I you something has offended? Write to me please.
With impatience I wait Barbi.
Hi Peter! Have good day! Peter, you ask, where I live - to To regret
it is far from you. Otherwise it was not necessary for us much e-mail,
To learn each other. I for the first time have acquaintance through
the Internet. It was very difficult to me to place my structure in a
service of acquaintances, because I am in Russia, the service of
acquaintances does not accept the members from this country. I had to
specify in a profile, that I am in USA. In this letter I shall inform
you a little information myself and if the dialogue with me will be
interesting to you, I shall tell about myself in more detail in the
following letters. I live in an average part of Russia, in city Kazan
in Tatarstan republic. But if we shall decide to meet, I hope, that it
not Will be a problem for us because I have made a little Travel to
other countries. I was in the several countries of Europe; For example
Turkey, Italy, Germany. I made these travel as The tourist. Therefore
Peter, you should not have excitement be relative That we not beside.
I such woman, that if I shall like The person for a meeting I shall
reach even on the moon. Besides in Our days is not a problem to make
such travel. I not I worry about it and I have necessary feelings to
get acquainted and it is possible To have relations with the person of
other state. It is very interesting - Other culture, thinking,
traditions. For me this new-Probably and you Peter Can learn, that
such the Russian woman. I hope that you have not lost interest to me
and will answer me soon. I wait for yours e-mail, my American friend.
HI Peter! I am pleased to receive your reciprocal message. For me it
was pleasant to receive the letter from you today. I am very glad that
you have written to me. Thank for your picture, it me to like. I shall
be To increase and to unpack it. I liked absolutely all your pictures.
That picture with the clown really amusing! What small little mouse!
You have made absolutely correctly, that have not listened to the
neighbour and have let off that little mouse. Peter You e-mail means
for me, that I too was interesting to you. You Really Peter, see a
picture of me nice? Peter, at me is present to you It is a lot of
questions and I would like to ask them in the messages, I hope you
Will allow to me answers to them - OK? You for me the nice person, And
on this for me it is important to know your opinion on some things. Me
to not irritate, that you to be more senior than me. I to search for
the mature man, which would be to wise and scientific life. I like the
men which is more senior than me and can learn me to something in this
short life. I to want to connect destiny with the man of such age as
you. I think, that you read my structure and could see there, that I
haves serious intentions to get acquainted with the good person for
relations . I shall try to tell a little about my character. I do not
know as it to start, I think, that I very romantic person. I like to
communicate with people, it is pleasant to me Good humour. I very much
appreciate such qualities in people, as fidelity and honesty. I
believe in love, and I think it very valuable thing which needs to be
protected. I very much The jealous person. I adore, when to me pay
compliments and is ready to listen to them indefinitely. For me it is
necessary, that around of me there was a cleanliness and the order, I
frequently am engaged cleaning. Also to me to like to prepare for a
meal, various tasty things. It is pleasant to me romantic relations
between the man and The woman, but probably all women dream to get
acquainted with good The person to have with him beautiful romantic
relations. But frequently such things come to an end Very quickly. I
have no intention to spend myself on such acquaintances. While I have
not met In the life of such person to which I would decide to give
myself and the life. But me it would be desirable to find such person.
I think, that for the woman the main thing to have in a life not
Career or other success, and strong family and the favourite person
beside what to care of him. Tell please, you dream to meet what woman
in the life? Excuse Peter, that I ask you to discuss such frank thing
with The person whom you know couple of days. But it is interesting to
me to know It about you. I shall wait for yours e-mail. Yours
Hi , I was sad that you do not write me and do not answer on my
letters. There can be I you than that has offended or you simply play
with me in games? I wait from you of the answer. Yours Barbi.
At that point I had started to ignore her because her letters were ridiculous, not reflecting what I had written.
However, things picked up then again..
I sent you some pictures. I did not get to the bottom of this page else I would have put them here
Cameron from United States
Hey guys,... I'm back.... And... Here is the 'STING' (1975 movie)
Oh Boy Am I In LUST! The Pic's just keep getting better...Now,...I want some Nudety...HeeeHeeeHeee.
I loaded on the LUST,....Oh I mean LOVE (and a BIG load of CRAP) in the past 2 letters that who ever the idiot(s) are just jumped to the point and now are asking for the money. They want money....they better come here and give me a Happy Ending!
Read it and Enjoy! I'm sure many of you had read letters similar to this
And by the way, Gabriel....It Is Definately FRAUD. So, have fun with it and Goof the Living Hell Out of it! DO NOT SEND MONEY... Tell the person that you are so madly in love that you are boarding a plane to be with her and to take her back home with you to give her Passionate LOVE!
Later Guys (or Girls)
Hello my love Bill!!!
Today I very much hurried up to read news
from you again. As to me, it now most
to be important for me with you on communication, my angel.
Please do not count me not patient, but I am simple
i can not now without you on such big distance
from each other my most precious Bill.
My loved and sweet Bill I think, that
now, when we on became so close to each other,
nobody can prevent us to meet the friend
the friend in the person and to build our the further joint
life my most dear Bill. Now I to want
to tell to you all concerning my arrival in you.
Though to me I am not much sad in this occasion, but nevertheless
should speak you all about it my dear Bill.
I to learn that the visa in you will cost for us with you
415 dollars, including medical survey,
insurance and the passport for travel abroad.
In general I need from you in funds for clearing
mine of documents, that is I will need this sum
within the next few days. My the most favourite Bill
understand me correctly, that I cannot simply pay
it, I cannot simply make it one, without yours
the help. I have already prepared all documents for this purpose.
As I to learn, that I will need visa B-2,
that is the visa of the tourist as it is the most suitable
for us with you a variant my loved Bill.
I to learn all concerning it and to understand, that I can
to be in you from 30/90 days, I think, that this time
will suffice us to learn each other better.
As for these days we can do our plans on
the future. My precious Bill to me it is very sad
to speak you about the price of all it, simply understand me
only it is correct. I realize, that it is not easy for you
to make it for me and to send me such big money,
but nevertheless, I to not see other output from this situation.
before to write to you it, I to talk about all it
with mum and to tell to it about the wild prices for the visa.
We spoke with it almost 3 hours on our kitchen, she
to tell to me that I did not worry in this occasion,
as I find the good future husband which can
to understand me in all it, still she to tell to me, that will be
to help me with some funds for mine
movement to Moscow and to give its some savings.
When I it to hear it at me on eyes have appeared
bitter tears, and then I to see, that my mum too
cries looking on me, but then she strong to embrace me
and to allow to us with you the parent blessing.
My loved Bill I to want to tell to you, that
you to send me it on reliable system monetary
translations Western Union, from me it is required to you
the address of bank through which I can receive it from you.
The country: Republik of Tatarstan, Russia, the city of Kazan.
The post address: 2/43, Ukhtomsky str., Kazan.
The postal index: 420111.
And my full name in which you will require,
My loved Bill still I to you to want to tell,
that I learned, that from you still it is required to me
what number MTCN which will consist of 10 figures, in
which I shall require from you to receive it.
I shall wait it from you very soon, mine Bill,
and I very much hope, that nevertheless you can help me
with it. So I shall wait for news from you soon.
With love and sincere hope in heart Ludmila.
DerickUSA from United States
Thanks to everyone! This has been an educational and enjoyable 'reading' for myself and should be required for ANYONE considering meeting anyone from Russia (other countries too).
I've been 'spotting' a LOT of just the same kind of 'frauds' over the past year in my consideration of a foreign 'meeting' with several women.
Of course being a little 'nieve' at first, it was a 'quick' educational experience to weed out the scammers from the real (there ARE a few out there!)
Edit by administrator: Derick's advice has been moved to an independent document. It can be found here:
I've been getting e-mails from someone claiming to be Betylya from Votkinsk, Russia. She found my address on match.com. Her e-mails to me match some of those found on this page to about 90% accuracy. I was suspicious from the start so I've been comparing each of her e-mails with others found on sites like this one. Every e-mail has been a form letter. I plan to provide the information to Yahoo! and every legitimate international dating site I can find. Most legitimate sites have blacklists. (I happen to be a cyber investigator for a federal law enforcement agency but cannot prosecute this matter professionally due to the conflict of interest.)
Each e-mail contained a picture or two of a blonde-haired, blue-eyed beauty. I was surprised to see how little care was taken in disguising or coordinating the pictures. One picture was titled 'I at bar,' a simple zoom identified the 'bar' as a McDonalds in an English-speaking country.
I looked up her IP address on the www.DNSstuff.com web site and traced the IP through several stops--or 'hops'--in France, Germany, North Carolina, and Washington D.C. If you look at the e-mail header information (View -> Options in Outlook, you will see many IP addresses. Most are proxy IPs that are given 'permission' by the original IP owner to send the message. This is where I found the original IP, in my case: firstname.lastname@example.org with plain. Read fialka?e as fialka_e. A quick Google of 22.214.171.124 returned many Russian web sites, such as Internet stats, etc.
Back to the e-mail content; feigning interest, I sent a couple Russian language e-mails to this email@example.com address. Not one response addressed my questions. In fact, both responses were form letters.
If you have already paid for a visa, I hope your experience turns out to be legitimate and happy. If someone calls you on the telephone and says your e-mail friend needs $1,500 on her person to gain access to the U.S., hang up. My guess is they will tell you she already has $500 in her pocket and they need you to send the rest ASAP.
Good luck, gentlemen.
firstname.lastname@example.org from United States
Hi Im Dean mesa az I have recived same type of reply from valentina in kazan the letters I have read here sounds like her! parents in apartment,selling appliances, I have photos she sent shes to good to be true! she has not asked for money yet!She replied to a new times add of mine that was 1 1/2 mo over, I was a little suspecious but I wasjust hopeing It was finely my time for some good luck HaHa I will be glad to send any one the photos I have to compare, feel free to write me with any info you have thanks Dean email@example.com
nickcanuck from Canada
Interesting! I'm corresponding with a 'Natalya' who claims to be from Kazan. I've known from the start that this was a scam, if only for the reason that I'm 30 years older than her. Haha. But I also treat all this sort of thing with a lot of skepticism. But I've been playing along for fun, waiting for the money request which hasn't come yet. Interestingly, my letters do not match any on this site, but there is no question they are form letters. They are very generic, and she doesn't appear to read my letters. She once thanked me for sending her my favourite movies, when I hadn't done so. All come with a picture, not a model shot but the sort a friend might take. But all are numbered sequentially and she is wearing the same outfit in each and every one! When I complain about the general nature of her letters ('let me tell you about Russia'!!) it is ignored, but if I ask a lot of specific questions after the complaint she (he?) does tack on a 'P.S' in which the english is not quite as good. Her email address is one of the 'yanex.ru'. She also contacted me through a dating website - in this case Lavalife, and her profile said she was in New York. When I asked about that svereal times she/he eventually said that she did that because no one would write her if it said Russia on it. Her site on Lava has since been removed. She/he does have patience, though. I've had about 10 emails and no request for money yet. Not even very affectionate yet. Maybe I'll lose interest first. We'll see. But it was nice to stumble onto this site. I googled the school she said she worked at in Kazan and this site showed up. Too funny.
anonymous from United States
This a different scam. Check this last letter out:
Hello my Steve.
I didn't write you for a while. I am sorry. I know I had to think
about you and just write you a short note earlier. I had something I
had must solve before I write you anything. I know you worry for me.
As you see from the subject of my letter things doesn't smile at me. I
am sad and confused. I don't want to tell it to you. I know you want
to meet me. But I will be unable to come to the US by my own.
I have faced the big problem.
Steve I want to explain you the whole situation. In my last letter
I have told to you, that I shall have conversation with Sergey from our
trade union in Lipetsk. I have met him, and he has told that our
trade union will not pay my travel. I asked why and how it may be? They
carry out this exchange programm without funding it? He said it is not
right. Our government arranges traveling papers, visas, contract with
American government. They also pay salary and supply place for living
for american doctors that will come to work to Russia. Travel expenses
must be covered from local hospital budget or our trade union. My hospital
refused to pay travel the state practically does not finance her. The trade union
cannot pay for it also because Moscow did not send money. Sergey has told,
that it because of ' The bird's flu '
Moscow has sent money allocated on our program in areas of disaster. He has
told there this money are necessary more, our duty to help.
I asked him what I can do? He said I can pay my travel by my own or
find a sponsor. I asked who will pay me the salary for work in the US?
He said when I will come to New York, we will contract with American
government and they will supply the appartment and the salary for us.
It is exact.
Well, I asked him how much I must pay. When he said the sum I was very
confused. It is $950 USD. I knew I didn't have such sum and I even
can't borrow it from someone here. Sergey was very sorry for me. He has
told such things should not happen if not ' The bird's flu '.
He has made for me all that could.
After that talking I went to bank trying to get loan. But when they
leant I am coming to the USA they refused to me. I talked to my
friends trying to find money but I knew they didn't have such sum. They
have the same income what I make and have their children. They should care
of them not me. This is my salary for 7 months. I tryed to ask for sponsorship
in some commercial companies but they don't want to deal with me because they
don't see any profit. I have made all that could.
Sergey said I need to find a private sponsor and I thought about you.
Steve I didn't want to ask you for any help. I wanted to do
everything by my own. But I don't have any other options. Sergey has told my
plane - on December, 17 2005. If I shall not find money at this time, I can,
go by plane with doctors from Voronezh on December, 19 2005. I must be in Moscow
with money by this time. I will fly to New York if I have money and I won't fly
in other cases.
Steve I understand everything you may think about me. I hate asking
people for money and I always try to do everything by my own. But now
I really need your assistance. I estimated everything. I will reimburse you
this sum less in one month. I also can pay you extra money back. I will work in your
state for sure. I don't know what clinic. They will tell it in New York. I will earn at
least $3000 for a month and I will have a place to live. You see I will be able
to return you the money.
Steve you are the only man I know in the USA. I don't want to mix
our relationship and money. But I don't have anyone else to ask for
this help. I know if things even will not work out between us we will
stay good friends. Steve I have the warmest feelings for you and I want to develop them.
You know what this travel means for me. It is my only chance to come to
America and start new life. It also an opportunity to start a new life for you... and for us.
I am honest woman and I honestly tell you that I will never hurt you or cheat you.
I will be there for ten months. This is more than enough to make a decision
Steve I have already told you about my plans for future. I want to
come to the USA, earn some money to start my own business and find
good man to love each other and enjoy our life together.
I think I have already found this man....YOU.
I want that we have together carried out all our dreams. We shall be happy together.
When I heard from Sergey that my future ruined I was so stressed and confused.
I don't want to give it up. I still have my hope. You are this strong man that can
Steve, I hope you undestand me now. I don't ask you for money. I
ask you for help. In any case the relationship between us is most important and we should
save it first.
Hope this issue didn't change your feelings to me. I just miss you and I
want to meet you. Please help me. I am giving way to despair.
Steve, be my sponsor
I will wait for your answer with all my hope.
The big greeting from me up to all relatives.
With the love.
From what I understand, this is typical...
anonymouslyours from United States
I think this is government sponsored experiment in artificial intelligence, disguised as a scam. We are writing to computers, and we are the guinae pigs as well as the trainers of these learning machines. It would be costly to pay humans trainers, so instead we are given elusive incentives to do that for free. So it's both an experiment iin artificial human agency and in language acquisition. My 2 cents, but I'm very much convinced of that.
firstname.lastname@example.org from United States
This person is a scammer. (S)he is using the name Rufina and Afrodita currently. Her email is email@example.com and firstname.lastname@example.org and dar423 (domain unknown) but that's what (s)he used on Match.com. The letters are structurally indentical. (s)he uses the same letters but does spend time to alter them just enough to make them somewhat realistic. I have corresponded with (s)he for 3 months and a total of 30 plus emails. I have not let (s)he know that I know (now). I have contacted the US Embassy in Russia regarding (s)he. The pictures were of a very lovely girl who looked so sweet. What a shame. I did lose $414 through a wire transfer. Well, you live and learn (although Plato disagreed with that philosophy; reason give the best opportunity for knowledge, he believed, and in this case, despite my doubts, I failed to reason through the scenario presented.) I will further post the letters that (s)he sent me.
CS from Germany
It is a scam, since now I get 15 letters from her. First 07.011.02 till now!!!
CS / Germany from Germany
Correction: 7th. November 2005
anonymous from United States
To: anonymous says at 2005-11-27, 16:40:45, I believe this is the same 28 year old lady, who teachs English from Kazan, who has emailed me from match.com . I responded to her form letter and recieved another form letter, very similar to yours!! She answered no direct questions and asked questions I answered in my first letter. I first sent her a wink from Match but she lived in south africa at the time?? For a lady who teaches Engish she miss spelled some words and used the wrong words in context?? I think I will mess with her a little. Her name is 'Ekaterina Ishkova' does this ring any bells to any of you Guys??